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Prince Harry, Duke of Sussex and Meghan, Duchess of Sussex attend the Unveiling of the Labalaba Statue Meghan, Duchess of Sussex looking straight to camera on October 25, 2018 in Nadi, Fiji. The Duke and Duchess of Sussex are on their official 16-day Autumn tour visiting cities in Australia, Fiji, Tonga and New Zealand.

Motherhood is always onMeghan Markle’s mind.

The Duchess of Sussex, 41, spoke about how she wants to raise her children to be go-getters in the latest episode of herArchetypespodcast. Meghan welcomed Mellody Hobson, co-CEO of Ariel Investments and chairwoman of Starbucks, and Victoria Jackson, makeup mogul and medical advocate, for a conversation called “To ‘B’ or Not to ‘B’?” There, the women unpacked how the word “bitch” holds women back, especially in the working world.

“My mom was very unique. She gave me the hard truths of life with so much love and support. But she never wanted me to go through life not being prepared for all that would come. So she taught me what to expect as a Black woman and a Black person, and I really do appreciate that aspect of her — I call it ‘brutal pragmatism,’ but with so much love,” the executive said.

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Mellody Hobson, Co-CEO & President, Ariel Investments speaks onstage during the 2020 Embrace Ambition Summit by the Tory Burch Foundation at Jazz at Lincoln Center on March 05, 2020 in New York City

Though the family struggled to make ends meet, Hobson says her mother raised her kids to go after what they wanted — like a straighter smile.

Remembering how the “special” orthodontist treated her like an adult, the doctor told her that braces would be $2,500.

“And I said, ‘Well, we don’t have that kind of money. And he gave me a payment plan,’ " Hobson recalled of the valuable money lesson. “He gave me a little booklet. And then I went home and told my mom and explained the whole thing to her. And I went back and got braces.”

The businesswoman said her mom wasn’t surprised that she was so inventive because “if I wanted to do things, I had to figure it out every time.”

Impressed with her intensity, Meghan replied with a laugh, “I have to rethink my parenting style! Because if that’s what yields you, then I’ve really got to up my game with our kids being self-sufficient.” A mom of two, Meghan shares sonArchie, 3, and daughterLilibet, 1, with her husbandPrince Harry.

Elsewhere in the episode, the duchess dug into the definition of “the B-word,” noting that the negative phrase is too often used to insult and dismiss women.

“I was talking to a good girlfriend of mine this past weekend and when I saw her, she said something I had never heard before — ‘Well, isn’t that a convenient villain’ — an assertive woman in a position of power, being called the b-word? How very convenient,” Meghan said.

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“But that’s what happens when we label someone, a woman, especially, one of these words. it becomes a way to take their power away. Keep them in their place. A lot of times it’s tied to the very women who have power and agency, as my friend was suggesting who aren’t comfortable being silent, like, businesswomen and entrepreneurs.”

Tuesday’s conversation was the ninth episode ofArchetypes,which debuted on Spotify in August. Programming waspausedfollowing the death ofQueen Elizabeth IIon Sept. 8, and the weekly release of new episodes resumed a month later.

The Duke and Duchess of Sussex first announced a “multi-year partnership” betweenSpotify and their production company Archewell Audioin 2020. According to a previously shared press release,Archetypesintends to “investigate the labels that try to hold women back.”

Previous guests have includedSerena Williams,Mariah Carey,Mindy Kaling,Margaret Cho,Lisa Ling,Constance Wu,Paris HiltonandIssa Raefor conversations onambition,race,mental healthand more.

New episodes ofArchetypesdrop Tuesdays on Spotify.

source: people.com