have its massive corner office , you belike saw Batman v Superman : Dawn of Justice this weekend . And whether you loved it or hated it , chances are you had some questions about the portion of the picture you managed to appease awake for . As always , our patented Spoiler FAQ has the answer you try !
What is Batman v Superman ?
The newest chapter in director Zack Snyder ’s DC Cinematic Murderverse .
But what ’s it about ?
It ’s about fundamentally be amiss Superman , Batman , superheroes in oecumenical , canonical morality , and doubling down on all of Man of Steel ’s problems . It ’s also about 2.5 punishing hours long .
Sigh . You just went in already hate it , did n’t you ?
Well , I certainly acknowledge I was n’t affirmative having see the trailer , the previews , the interviews with Snyder , or the entireness of Man of Steel . But I can tell you I think I actually liked it more than I thought I would , which again , based on the evidence , was not at all . There are a few in force moments . Wonder Woman is pretty much perfect . Affleck is a shockingly ripe Batman , although the hand does n’t do him any favors . And the motion picture is n’t as flat - out dumb as Man of Steel .
But ?
But the moving-picture show is dull . It is dull and dark and dour , and there is shockingly minuscule superhero action in for a film that has not one but two superheroes in its form of address . It is not fun . And while it might not be as dumb as Man of Steel , it still has moments of WTF - ery so all baffling it seems impossible that Snyder , the actors , the editors , the producers , and the studio execs would all have unanimously let them happen without bespeak out how insane they are .
What do you think ?
I mean this is the first superhero movie that conspicuously feature a glass jar full of urine .
Holy shit .
Yeah . But there ’s something else I find even more baffling , if not exactly unexpected . When I was watching BvS , a female parent had brought her 7 - year - old tiddler to see the film . By about 45 minutes—45 minutes of darkness and grimness and an almost full absence seizure of superheroes — the poor kid had enough and commence screaming because he was so frightened . Zack Snyder has made a movie about the two greatest , most popular superheroes in the total cosmos that children should not be allow to see .
But it ’s PG-13 …
But it ’s still been marketed to children ; look at the Batman and Superman merchandise flooding any section memory . But also Marvel ’s movies are all PG-13 and they do n’t have this problem , nor do parents expect them to . And that ’s why Marvel / Hasbro / Disney deal toys base on Captain America and Avengers and all that other shit to kids , because they require kids to be interested in Marvel characters . WB / DC wants the same , they just failed to make a movie that they can watch without having nightmare or being bored to tears . you could charge the MPAA ’s outdated rating organization , the superhero moving-picture show industry , or modern society , but I guarantee that this poor woman was not the only adult who had to take their kid out of BvS this weekend .
Woof .
By the mode , when the Thomas Kyd was taken out screaming ? We had n’t even get to the setting where Superman fails to break a terrorist from blowing up the capitol building and he stand there like a dope in a elbow room full of flames and charred bodies .
Jesus .
receive to DC ’s Murderverse , my Quaker . Hope you pull round the experience ! ( You wo n’t . Batman will mangle you . )
How does the motion-picture show set about ?
With the death of Bruce Wayne ’s parent , as is de jure mandated in every goddamn movie he appear in . Also there ’s a flashback to when vernal Bruce fall into the Batcave and the chiropteran magically levitate him out .
The hell ?
As it change by reversal out , this is a ambition Bruce Wayne is have , which he is also somehow narrating . However , it does plant a very upstanding “ What the nooky is happening ? ! ” vibration for the moving-picture show right off the squash racquet , no pun think .
That pun was dead intended .
Of course it was . Next we flash - forward to Man of Steel time ( 18 months ago ) where Bruce Wayne has a first - row seat at all the mass murder from the Superman “ v ” Zod fight . So not only do we get to see Superman ’s utter neglect for human biography again , but we get a close look at the citizenry who actually died as a result of it . We get to find a Wayne executive pray as Superman and Zod level the skyscraper he ’s on with heat vision . And we get to see Scoot McNairy as a guy whose ramification are crushed in the indiscriminate force .
This was the part about Man of Steel that upset everyone the most ! Why would Zack Snyder do this ? !
Because Zack Snyder thinks we ’re all snatch for being disconcert that “ Superman ” did n’t “ carry through ” “ lives . ” He ’s go to have to tone down the slaughter later — kind of — and he ’s acrid as hell at the hearing for make him do it , so he ’s rubbing our case in the carnage WB ca n’t take back , so to speak . The flipside is that Superman quit being so murder - y in BvS.
Really ?
Yeah , there ’s a whole 30 - second - long collage of him saving / not kill masses , so that ’s some major growing for the character . alas , this alteration of ethos is not acknowledged on projection screen in any way , which makes it look Superman has decided not to kill people only because people complained in Man of Steel , which I can say with absolute sure thing is how Zack Snyder made the same decision .
So people detest Superman for the carnage he caused in Man of Steel ?
Well , it ’s why Batman hate him . But people love him , at least enough for Metropolis to work up a goliath , art deco statue of him of him striking a mannerism ( which , I swear to god , from a certain angle looks a swell good deal like he ’s pitch off the normal sized humans stand by the statue . It is accidentally perfect ) . Except sometimes the world does n’t hump him , like when he ’s “ frame ” while rescue Lois , who ’s interview a terrorist / warlord in Nairobi .
How is he frame ?
I have no clue . Somehow Lois is come with both by the CIA and mercenaries ( eventually let out to be hired by Lex Luthor ) , all disguise as photojournalist . Eventually a jumbo firefight starts between those two group and the terrorists until the tyrant grabs Lois and holds a accelerator pedal to her head , at which point in time Superman finally get and punches the despot through a wall . Unless mass somehow think Superman grab an assault rifle , the only affair we know for certain about this confuse mint of a scene is that Superman did n’t kill anybody or cause anyone to be killed ( although one could necessitate why he let them off each other and only vex to show up when Lois was in risk ) .
That ’s unearthly .
This whole aspect exists solely so the movie can have the administration ask if maybe Superman should be regulated , which exists entirely so the government can get involved with Lex Luthor ’s attempt to ramp up an anti - Superman weapon system , which itself exists solely so the government can say “ Hey , stop making that anti - Superman weapon system , ” which exists only so Lex can lawlessly important a bad hunk of kryptonite , which live so Batman can render to slip it in a gargantuan military action localize spell ( where he murders so many citizenry ) .
What should we experience about Batman ?
Well , he has zero trouble murdering defective guys , that ’s for certain . He ’s been Batman for 20 years at this percentage point . He seemingly had a Robin who was killed by the Joker , and Batman did n’t desire to ante up the cleansing banknote for his uniform . Oh , the speculative guy cable he does n’t outright murder ? He literally brands with a at-bat symbolic representation .
Like … a burning - spicy brand ? Like insane spiritual zealots used to do in the 1700s when they also thought people were hag ? Or owners did to slaves ? !
Yep ! Oh , and also for intellect that the pic never even attempts to explicate when these branded crook enter prison , they are beaten to last by the other inmates . Batman get laid this is happening . It ’s on the news show . He does n’t give care . Batman is physically torturing and scarring criminals and then send them to be beaten to death .
Is that why the less murder - y Superman hate Batman ?
Yeah . Apparently — and I ’m making an effrontery I ’m not 100 % sure the movie backs up — the understanding Clark / Superman dead like about Batman , despite Batman ’s two - decade - long crime - murdering career , is that he ’s only recently begin trademark people , sort of as a event of the butchery of Man of Steel . The existence of Superman is just so horrific that Batman has embark on killing criminals by proxy .
pricey deity .
In Zack Snyder ’s DC Cinematic Murderverse , wildness begets violence . And violence is super - awe-inspiring .
Wait , if Batman wants to kill Superman , what is Lex Luthor doing in the movie ?
He ’s doing a gloomy - rent Heath Ledger - as - Joker imitation , is what he ’s doing . He actually starts as a chic , interesting , if somewhat clichéd web start - up Millennial genius , but ends up as a goofy elfin lunatic by the end of the celluloid . The reason for his mental deterioration is n’t explained even slimly in the movie .
Well , speaking of things that seem to make no sense , what ’s the deal with post - apocalyptic - Batman - in - the - trenchcoat scene ?
It ’s another aspiration sequence , where Superman has take on over the human beings and created a bunch reciprocal ohm - symbolization - hold stormtroopers , Also there are Parademons . You sleep together , the winged alien / demon thing that process the major DC scoundrel Darkseid . They , uh , service Superman along with his S - S(hield ) Troopers .
look , what ?
Yeah , in the dream , Superman is … Darkseid ? Maybe ? There ’s a big Omega symbol on the ground ; you might have seen it in the trailers .
So Batman is having a prophetic dream that is only half prophetical ?
Maybe ? But hey , you have it off how Batman is always having prophetic pipe dream about the hereafter in the comedian .
That ’s never ever been a thing .
Oh right . My badness . Well , we do get to see this Extra - Murder - y Superman literally rive people aside with his heat sight , which is clearly something Zack Snyder has been despairing to put on film , but was push by horror-stricken WB execs to submit to a aspiration succession .
What the fuck is even happening
And when Batman wakes up , he meet the Flash !
Whoa , really ? That ’s cool , right ?
Well , the Flash does n’t so much “ sojourn ” as “ seem in a huge testicle of lightning while wearing weird - ass armor and needing a shave , and also he protrude screaming about Lois Lane being the key and not to trust somebody but refusing to specify which someone to trust . ” Batman is looking at him confusedly , which is pretty reasonable , at which point Flash realizes he screwed up the fourth dimension travel and came too soon , which we know because he says this out loud , still without ever telling Batman who he should n’t confide .
That ’s moronic .
Aaaaaand that ’s when Batman ignite up . Again .
No .
Yes .
NO .
The Flash ’s prison term travel sojourn was a dream . Or it was n’t . Maybe ? Who the hell knows . Either way , it does n’t seem to be helpful at all , since neither Bruce nor the audience has any idea of what the Flash is saying or what he ’s trying to achieve or what he ’s trying to prevent .
WHAT THE FUCK .
With not one but two apparently impossible dreams tell him that Superman need to be murdered , Batman decided to steal a giant block of Kryptonite that Lex Luthor has on the QT imported from Zod ’s Indian ocean ship , which , as I mention above , is an apology for a Batmobile activity scene …
… in which Batman dispatch a lot of mass .
… in which Batman slay a lot of people . Look , I ’m sure you have your doubts , but Batman uses the guns on his auto to make an absurd number of car carrying goons explode with the gawk still in them . He runs them off the road causing them not just to wreck , but crumple in a way you could be 100 % certain no passenger hold up . He in reality apply a harpoon thing to drag in an abandoned car half a knot — an absurdly long time — just so he can finally apply it to crush a car full of goons who utterly die . He go through a slap-up trade of endeavor not just to kill these hombre , but to wipe out them in a coolheaded way .
At one point , and I imprecate this is lawful , Batman jump his Batmobile into the back of the truck prevue , and the motion-picture show makes it abundantly clear that Batman has driven a car through one of Luthor ’s goon ’s goddamn case .
( groan )
The scene cuts away when the Batmobile ’s bumper is about a stern of an inch away from his drumhead , but since it ’s traveling approximately 80 miles per hour hour , I find passably safe in arrogate the guy ’s skull break loose like an overripe Cucurbita pepo . perchance we ’ll get to see it happen in the R - rated director ’s swing !
I do n’t even know what to say .
Eventually , Superman get in and stomach in the middle of the route until Batman tries to carry him over with the Batmobile , at which the Batmobile bounces uproariously off him .
Has Superman come to check the rampant demolition in Gotham City ?
Oh , god no . He ’s come up to have a dick - measurement contest with Batman .
They do n’t fight each other ?
Nope , they do n’t “ v ” at all . It ’s just two intoxicated fraternity boys at the bar posturing at each other , followed by yet another half - hour of non - superhero action , including the aforementioned fit of Superman getting owned at the capitol .
Yeah , what ’s that about ?
There ’s a Senate hearing on Superman : Is He a Good Thing ? It ’s lead by Senator Holly Hunter and attended by Superman - hating Scoot McNairy , who lose his legs in the final battle of Man of Steel . Senator Hunter easy notices a James Mason jar full of human pee on her desk , a call back to an early conversation she had with Lex ( curt version : it ’s free-base on a folksy saying about affect a shock of piss is “ Granny ’s Peach Tea ” ) . And then Scoot McNairy ’s wheelchair blows up , killing every single soul in the way , literally over a hundred people , except for Superman .
Say , can you describe Superman ’s look as he stands there in the capitol among the flame and the char bodies , perhaps in a single music cue ?
I can !
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ytCEuuW2_A
Sigh .
thing somehow get stupefied , because this also does n’t actually involve anything . We do n’t see citizenry hate Superman any more than they did previously . Also , everyone seems to know the bomb was in Scoot McNairy ’s president , but no one seems to care at all that his chair was provided by Lex Luthor . Really , only Superman blames Superman .
Um , is n’t that a legitimate complaint ? He ’s Superman . He has crack upper , hearing , and smell , probably . He has x - ray visual sensation ; should n’t he have been able to see the turkey ? Or used his freeze breath to stop it ? Would it have killed Zack Snyder to have rent Superman save the day here ?
I cerebrate he think register an existent view of Superman saving someone , not just as a tiny part of a montage , might actually somehow murder him .
That ’s pretty much what I thought .
If it makes you feel any better , it ’s clock time for the epic third act !
Cool ! Finally !
The third act makes no sense .
GODDAMMIT .
So Lex Luthor ’s architectural plan is make Batman and Superman fight , because suddenly Lex hate Batman , too . He concocts a plan which expect Batman stealing that immense hunk of kryptonite from him — the kryptonite his hired goons literally died to successfully keep out of Batman ’s hands , apparently for no cause at all — but also requires him to coincidently enact his programme the same night Batman decides to take on Superman . Lex has literally no way of experience this .
That ’s dumb .
In a more entertaining movie it would have been so promiscuous to not think about it , but when there ’s so little going on its impossible not to focus on the gargantuan plotholes .
What ’s Lex ’s programme ?
Part one is kidnapping Lois Lane and Ma Kent , then throwing Lois Lane off Lexcorp ’s cap . When Superman catches her and flies up to face up Lex , he shows him Polaroids of Ma Kent being tied up and perchance tortured , just in eccentric you were upset you were n’t going to see a woman maltreat in this movie about the two greatest superheroes in the creation ( there ’s a real The Killing Joke vibe here , and I absolutely do n’t mean this as a compliment ) . Lex recite Superman he has to go fight Batman ; if he is n’t dead or back with Batman ’s head in an hour , Lex is going to have one of his minion typeset Ma Kent on fervour . With a flamethrower .
Sure .
So Superman flies over to Batman , who is of course waiting in his armored suit of clothes , with traps and a spear whose hint is made out of the kryptonite he stole . Batman has very kindly keep the spear about 100 yards off so as to check that the fight lasts a long fourth dimension , and Superman does his part by refusing to explain anything about his circumstances that might accidentally induce Batman to stop the fight .
How does Superman not just kill Batman ?
Well , like in The Dark Knight Returns , which forthwith inspired this scene , Superman is actively try not to bolt down Batman for a bit , but , this being the DC Murderverse , he chop-chop gets angry enough to disregard that annoying sense of ethical motive . Unfortunately by that time Batman has flash him in the grimace with Kryptonite gas , which weakens him . ( To be fairish , it appears that Superman looks like he ’s about to explain his billet to Batman when he first gets hit with the K - gasolene , but then he ’s choke and ca n’t verbalize . Still , he has slew of opportunities before and after that to say ” Hey , broseph , Lex stole my mum . ” )
Is the conflict cool ?
Well , it would be cooler if it did n’t need both heroes to be fabulously stupid to make it pass off and then keep it encounter , but hey , it ’s still Batman fighting Superman in alive - legal action . It ’s for sure worth see , especially if you may debar the rest of the movie .
That ’s skillful ? I pretend ?
There are even some really good moments , like when Superman tries to punch Batman after sucking up a swarm of kryptonite accelerator , and Armored Batman blocks it but by enhance his arm , and the smell of shock on Superman ’s face is somewhat great . That was in a lot of the preview footage , but there ’s an equally great setting that was n’t : Batman is perforate Superman in the cheek repeatedly , but the natural gas is wear off , and there ’s this terrific sound of Superman ’s face slowly get more and more invulnerable , while Superman go bad from looking punch - sot to very , very wild .
Nice !
Of course , this intend that Superman has to wing into a second Kryptonite gas bomb like a chump so that Batman can finally get his shaft and get ready to drive it into Superman ’s chest . At this head Superman finally decide “ Hey , maybe I should let Batman sleep with my mom is being held surety ” and pass “ Save Martha . ” Which altogether freaks Batman out .
Oh . Oh . Because —
Because that ’s the name of his mom . Yes , the Clarence Day is saved because Batman and Superman ’s momma have the same first name . At least it causes Batman to not bump off Superman long enough for Lois Lane to get and actually excuse what the hell is snuff it on . Suddenly , despite absolutely nothing about their existent issues with each other having been resolved , they become Super Friends .
Honestly , by this tip I was just so goddamn thankful to see Batman and Superman in the end working together that I in reality liked it . It helped that Batman offered to deliver Ma Kent , which he does by taking out perhaps two dozen armed lubber in what I conceive might be the good Batman fight ever seen in live - natural process …
…
… minus all the slaying .
You really have to measure up this film with “ minus all the execution ” a lot , do n’t you ?
I do . And it kind of sucks , because otherwise this view is really cool . He shell the crap out of like a XII guys , many of them arm . He ’s not pull his biff , and some of the smash are brutish , but brutal in a agency where you do n’t immediately think “ Oh , that Isle of Man is certainly dead . ” But then Batman take hold of one of the tough with a gun and uses it to shoot half a 12 other hood , and you ’re back in the DC Murderverse . Of naturally , it ends with the chief goon bear the flamethower on Ma Kent , and Batman shoot the flamethrower ’s gas tank , secure the guy burns alive in total torture . ( Batman screen Ma Kent with his cape . )
If you ’ve scan maybe more than three Batman comics in your life , you love that Batman could have palm this situation without practice slaying in at least a dozen ways . But nope ! A crook has been burned to death , and this especial portion of the day is saved .
So what does Superman do ?
Well , he heads back to Lex , who is now in Zod ’s sure-enough ship , which is inexplicably still attend out in business district Metropolis . Lex releases Doomsday , a behemoth he created to … uh … I do n’t know . “ Kill Superman ” is the obvious result , but it seems like he cogitate Batman had at least a solid chance at taking Superman out . Even more inexplicably , Lex started the Doomsday release countdown before Supes even has a prospect to die or convey over Batman ’s head , so Lex was intelligibly plan on discharge Doomsday no matter what .
What was he going to do if Superman lost ?
Uh , inadvertently kill everyone on the satellite , I guess . Because after Superman punches Doomsday into arena , and America take a nuke at them while they ’re in space , and after Superman basically suplexes Doomsday into that atomic warhead — the demon falls all the manner to Earth , gets up , grows some spikes to look Doomsday - ier , and starts all over again .
Well , that ’s Doomsday for you .
Indeed . While Superman is reenacting his post - nuke shriveled raisin view from The Dark Knight Returns in quad , Batman make it to contend Doomsday as if he can do anything to help . Literally all he can do after Doomsday knocks the Batwing out of the sky is say “ Oh rat . ” And this is when Wonder Woman arrives to carry through his ass .
I really completely bury about Wonder Woman . What ’s she been doing all this prison term ?
Two things : 1 ) play with Bruce Wayne while disguised as Diana Prince and 2 ) creating a fragile framework for the DC Cinematic Universe in worldwide and the Justice League in specific .
Dare I ask ?
This consists literally of Bruce Wayne giving her a copy of one of Luthor ’s arduous drives comprise info on Meta - Humans which contains television of : a pre - Flash Barry Allen stopping a contrivance memory looting with his super - speed ; Aquaman gaze at a deep - sea video camera for an awkwardly long clip before swimming off ; and Dr. Stone working on the very small continue portion of his Word Victor ’s trunk by order a mysterious artefact next to him , which attaches to Victor ’s flesh and make Cyborg . ( For comics fans , the artefact is the Mother Box ; everyone else , do n’t worry about it . ) It ’s cool to see the larger DC motion picture - verse get established , but really Wonder Woman is basically just see YouTube video .
Oh .
That articulate , when she connect the conflict against Doomsday she instantly becomes the shining light of the moving picture . Maybe it ’s because she ’s not press down with all the other obtuse baggage of the statute title hero , or peradventure she just receive golden , but Wonder Woman is completely badass without ever hazard into that “ heartless warrior ” mode that the comics sometimes impersonate her as , and which would conform to far too utterly in Snyder ’s world . It ’s kind of a miracle .
It makes me suspicious when you say gracious things about the moving-picture show .
Sorry , because the view where Batman , Superman and Wonder Woman squad up to crusade Doomsday is like a windowpane into a completely different film — a fun , cool , entertaining movie where DC ’s superheroes work together , complement each other ’s talents , and make you root for them for the first fourth dimension ever . The three of them have a bizarrely great chemistry together , even when they ’re just fighting a big CG monstrosity , that it ’s almost cruel that the movie waited this long to get them together . Hell , Ben Affleck is so good as Batman and Gal Gadot is such a howling Wonder Woman that they even make Henry Cavill ’s dour , joyless Superman look good ! But of track , the moronic plot of ground gets in the style again .
Well , I conjecture the plot also suddenly turn over good was too much to ask .
The three quickly see out that since Doomsday is made of Zod ’s consistence , it postulate to be bolt down by a Kryptonian weapon . The obvious answer is of course the gig that Batman nonchalantly forget behind in his fight with Superman .
completely . So Batman go to get the fishgig .
Nope ! He decides he should lead Doomsday back downtown to the lance . ( At least the flick take a second to say that business district Metropolis is devoid of people , because as we all know every undivided person leaves the business district field of every major metropolitan city at about 9 postmortem examination . Do n’t know why I even bring it up . )
That seems … obtuse .
Also dim : Lois Lane , having been left behind with the spear , has decided to throw the fizgig into a bizarrely deep shaft of body of water in some abandoned building . And then , when she sees Doomsday rampage about , she somehow instantly have sex she needs the spear again , so she goes into the water only to have the roof break down , trapping her underwater . It ’s like the damozel - in - distress cliché plus interfering work , as if this movie was n’t long enough .
( makes moan disturbance )
It ’s all an excuse so Clark can try her pounding on her rocks trapping her , fly off to save her , have a tender moment with her to say goodbye , and then catch the Kryptonite spear up himself so he can shove it into Doomsday ’s chest
Does n’t the kryptonite that weaken Superman well ?
Very much so .
Why does n’t Superman give the Kryptonite fishgig to Batman ?
Great fuckin ’ question .
Or why does n’t he give it to Wonder Woman ? She ’s super - warm and she is n’t impact by Krypronite .
Even better fuckin ’ interrogative . The answer is that Zack Snyder wants Superman to give himself to toss off Doomsday , even if it is n’t even more or less necessary , and even if it makes Superman wait like an moron , which he absolutely does when Doomsday also stabs him in the dresser and he dies .
Why ? We all know he ’s coming back . Justice League Part One photographic film in like two week .
You know how in the Justice League cartoon , whenever the JL would fight somebody , Superman would directly get bump out by a laser for a while to let everyone else have a chance to oppose bad guys before he woke up and took care of business ?
That ’s precisely the same thing , just Zack Snyder - mode .
( makes longer groaning noise )
Clark Kent gravel a funeral in Smallville , while Superman go a gargantuan military funeral in DC , despite the fact that he fail to keep the Capitol building from blowing up and the government decided to nuke him . There are , in both funeral , a shocking amount of bagpipe medicine .
Lex Luthor gets put into Hair Prison , which for some rationality take all convict have their head shave before being immure . Also he ’s crazy , and has change state into basically a Renfield for Darkseid , making a lot of generic threat about something bad coming .
Why not ?
And Batman and Wonder Woman decide to go assemble the folks they figure in Lex ’s YouTube play list , because Batman has a feeling that some variety of supergroup will be need . Because of two aspiration he had that make no goddamn gumption by any measured . Wheee !
“ Whee . ”
Oh and then a trivial snatch of shite levitates of Clark ’s casket THE END .
BONUS ROUND
You said a rather surprising amount of dainty things about the motion-picture show , especially there at the end . Would you say you kind of like it ?
Oh god no . There were a few cool moment , but they were outnumbered by consequence of amentia and insanity . More importantly , both the coolheaded and dumb moments together only answer for for 10 % of the moving-picture show ; the rest is just crushingly deadening . Many , many thing happen in this motion picture , and most of them are just lay waste to clock time so Snyder can end up with a 2.5 - time of day running play time , because he feels that ’s more important to an “ epic ” picture show than a playscript that does n’t require the characters to be imbecile .
Well , if you ’re so smart , how would you trim this down ?
Off the top of my head : Cut Batman ’s line taradiddle ; work his mum ’s name somewhere else in the plot . ( A single Alfred anecdote about Martha would suffice . ) Do n’t show the people actually die in the buildings Superman wrecked in Man of Steel . Drop Bruce ’s Nazi Superman and Flash dreams , as they are bewilder even to comics wonk . Cut the Pa Kent scene ; move Clark ’s heart - to - heart with Ma Kent after the senate bombardment . Do n’t give Lois a unintelligent spear dangerous undertaking , just have Superman go pick it up . I could get this movie down to a trim 1:45 if Warner Bros. require a “ watchable edition . ”
Wait , Kevin Costner is in this ? I thought Pa Kent was dead .
Yeah , but he appears while Clark is hike to have a for the most part meaningless conversation . More interestingly , when Clark talks to Ma Kent earlier in the photographic film , she fundamentally tells him “ humanity can go sleep with themselves , fuck ’ em Clark , you do n’t owe them shit ” in the lofty Kent tradition of telling Superman he should decidedly be letting people die .
But are n’t you happy that the movie went out of the way to point out that all the places the hoagy press Doomsday were unoccupied ?
Look , I will fully admit this one may be me being a hater , but it actually It seemed sarcastic to me . It ’s like a peckish child concord to do the bare minimum to get out of a chore . mama : “ Did you brush your teeth ? ” Kid brushes one tooth for half a 2nd : “ Yessss ! ” And the shaver / Zack Snyder congratulates himself for get out one over on us .
I consider you are just being a hater . In fact I cogitate you and all the other critic should salute this jar of “ Granny ’s Peach Tea ” because it ’s secretly urine and I dislike your opinion .
You understand that because you wish the moving-picture show and are handing critics “ Granny ’ Peach Tea ” you are say the flick is the jar of piss , correct ? Because critic are the ones warning you not to drink the pissing , even if it ’s label Batman v Superman .
But Batman v Superman made $ 166 million in its opening weekend ! That ’s an mad amount of money !
Who ever say it was n’t going to make money ? It ’s a film in which Batman and Superman appear together , for the first sentence ever . Who does n’t desire to see that ? Even though I was jolly certain the film would be bad , there was no way of life I was n’t going to go see it . But its financial success has literally nothing to do with its character . Otherwise Michael Bay would be broke .
Hey , Zack Snyder is no Michael Bay .
You ’re correct . Zack Snyder is much worse . Michael Bay thinks explosion are awesome and stories are mute . Zack Snyder really hate you .
This is a picture made out of scorn . despite for the nerds . Disdain for the audience . Disdain for the fry whose parents might by chance take them to see a movie starring their favorite superheroes . Disdain for the source stuff . He believe he knows well than all of us what Batman and Superman should be , even if fans , critics , and mass audiences secern him otherwise . This has led him to say some incredibly insane things .
Like what ?
Well , he thinksbecause Batman may have indirectly killed a few bad guys in Chris Nolan ’s Batman movies , he should be allowed to show Batman murdering all the people he want . The fact that this is fundamentally contrary to the core part that has dominated pop refinement for nearly 80 class does n’t matter to him at all . Batman intrust negligent homicide once ? Well , now Snyder can have him gun down criminals 24/7 .
What about Superman ?
Snyderhas saidsince Superman murdered less people in Man of Steel than the First Order in The Force Awakens , people should n’t complain . The fact that Snyder plainly feels that as long as Superman keeps his kill reckoning below that of Evil Space Nazis who have a weapon system that can demolish full superstar systems he is still a Hero of Alexandria is truly distressful .
Can you tell me something else super - disturbing about Zack Snyder that dead represents everything that is incorrect with him and his cinema ?
I sure can . Did you experience Jimmy Olsen is in Batman v Superman ?
No way ! I did n’t see him !
Yes you did . He ’s the lensman who accompanying Lois on her trip to Nairobi . The one who have his face blown off by terrorists almost right away .
Jimmy Olsen … die ? Without even being acknowledged as Jimmy Olsen ?
Yep ! Zack Snyder had a darling , fan favorite character murdered violently on - concealment , brutally , because that ’s what Zack Snyder likes . And do you have sex how he explain this decision ?
How ?
This is what hetold EW :
“ We just did it as this lilliputian aside because we had been tracking where we thought the pic were gon na go , and we do n’t have room for Jimmy Olsen in our big pantheon of graphic symbol , but we can have fun with him , right ? ”
This is an Easter egg for Zack Snyder . He vote down one of Superman ’s central back up theatrical role for “ playfulness . ” He thinks murdering the characters that cartoon strip nerds want to see on - screen is “ fun . ” And this is the man in charge of putting the total creation of DC ’s superheroes on screen .
Hey , what does the “ fivesome ” in Batman v Superman stand for , anyways ?
It stands for “ THIS IS A SUPERHERO MOVIE THAT PROMINENTLY FEATURES A GODDAMNED JAR OF HUMAN URINE . ”
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